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Jeep slams into pickup on the Expressway, both burst into flames, traffic snarls into gridlock

Flaming pickup and SUV

Heading north on the Expressway, Kevin Tinsley captured the flaming remains of a pickup rammed into by the driver of a Jeep near the Neponset Circle exit early this afternoon, creating a jam up that left 93 south at a standstill as police closed the road to allow firefighters to douse the flames.

C. Williams Media was a bit ahead of Tinsley, because he caught the moment right after the crash, before the two vehicles turned into a flaming mess:

Two crashed vehicles
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…was not on fire in the first pic of this accident that I saw on Twitter.

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By the accident, probably around 1:30 and all people involved were out of their vehicles, police on scene. The fire must have started after because there was no sign of fire/smoke. Seems like a freak incident after the fact.

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They got out OK.

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Thank God it wasnt a pedestrian or cyclist or motorized two wheel vehicle that was hit.
car drivers need to S L O W D O W N. whats the rush!!????? SLOW DOWN!

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A pedestrian or cyclist on the expressway?
Pardon my confusion, but . . . aren't peds and cyclists prohibited from the expressway?

That basically 86'd the commute the rest of the day- too me a little over an hour to get from Logan to Somerville this evening

Oh, wait, no, no you couldn't have because the contractor laid Toronto gauge track and the Blue Line buses were stuck in the same traffic as everyone else. Good going.

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All cars need sensor based notifications for things like excessive speed and nearby obstructions . I know that’s not a popular take.
I sincerely hope that all parties are able to recover.
A biker a motorcyclist or a pedestrian doesn’t have the same protection as a motor vehicle driver. Please slow down everyone . Your need to race to your destination or beat the red light has risks. Please consider that you as drivers have the advantage of changing driving culture for the better

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For most trips, driving at high speeds gains very little time. Remember d/r=t (distance divided by rate equals time)? Do the math. Your 10-mile trip is going to take about one minute longer at 60 mph than at 70 mph. That's if you're able to maintain a steady speed, which is often impossible around here. So to try and maintain a higher average speed, you're going to have to race through open stretches. It adds a lot of stress for you and the rest of us. Leave a little earlier and chill.

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I'm pretty sure that if you drive 80 miles at 80 mph rather than at 60 mph, you will save 20 minutes. Maybe you shouldn't, but you will. I'm sorry, I'm just doing the math, as you demanded.

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For 10 minute trips either. And if they do yea, driving an extra 10-30 mph faster isn’t going to make a difference. (I’m guessing the vehicles in this crash were not going over 20/30mph.

70% of car trips are 10 miles or less. Only 5.1% are more than 30 miles. So yeah, if you're going 80 miles, and really need that 20 minutes, drive 80 mph. Bear in mind, doing that exposes you to a real risk of getting stopped by the cops, which is going to blow your 20 minutes away, and probably involve a lot of other unpleasantness.

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…, you’ll arrive at your destination and need time to recover from the mental and physical stress that speeding causes.

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The likelihood of getting a ticket in Massachusetts for going 80 on the Interstate is low. And while most car trips are short, most trips are also not on an interstate highway.

People speed because it's fun, there's rarely any repercussions, and the social pressure to drive at least as fast as everyone else.

If you want people to slow down, citing the futility of time saved and/or increase in accident risk isn't a persuasive argument. (It should be but isn't.) People will slow down when there's high enforcement and/or when roads are designed to make it difficult to go fast.

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If you drive for an hour at 80, I'd say your chances of getting stopped are pretty good. You may not get a ticket, but if you're stopped, your elapsed time is going to be shit. This thread started with an accident on the Expressway, which is in fact an interstate, and the distance between Rte 3 in Quincy and Boston is less than 9 miles.

I usually drive 85+ on all highways and haven’t gotten pulled over in a very long time. My 503hp BMW rides like it’s on rails at those speeds.

I remember when the pandemic first started I drove to western MA and set my cruise control to 120 in my 400hp Audi. Those were the days.

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I-95 from Danvers to the NH line is a road where someone in a nice car can go 80-90 mph and still feel safe. I gotta think 90% of all vehicles that travel on that road are going 75mph. I'll find myself going 80 sometimes 85. I don't do it because it is fun or I know troopers won't pull me over (that road seems like one of the few places they will pull over motorists). I speed because I know I will get to my destination faster and going slower than 70 actually does seem "annoying" (I can't think of a better word). LIke I actually feel like I'm going too slow if I'm going less than 70, almost unsafe.

If I'm on 128 in Newton and there are no cars on the road, 75mph still feels like it is too fast. The lanes seem a little narrower than they do on 95 or maybe its the quality of the road or turns/grade of the road.

Got to get out of the mindset that your prosthetic transhuman shell is required and/or entitled to maximize speed beyond sense and reason.

I think this mentality leads to people seeing every snarl, every pedestrian, every "inconvenience" as a crime against their person and "in the way". We need to reprogram society. Every driver contributes to traffic congestion, every driver is responsible for where their vehicle goes.

When can we have interactive GPS governors required on cars?

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“ LIke I actually feel like I'm going too slow if I'm going less than 70, almost unsafe.”

Speed kills, speed pollutes, speed adds to noise pollution. Speeders stress out other road users. Be responsible and respectful and find your thrills somewhere else. No one cares about your “nice car”.

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So if you go 10mph slower than that, you actually have to worry about cars flying up your ass. You find your self looking out your side windows every 5 seconds. And you are STILL SPEEDING. That is dangerous.

And I said nice car when I should have said newer car. A car that is safe and sturdy.

And cars going the speed limit stress people out there, not the "speeders".

Least logical as well.

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and it is impacting your line of thought here. Did you see where I mentioned that some roads speeds are unsafe, even at or near the speed limit? You don't have to get on and argue just for the sake of arguing. Maybe lbb needs a roomate? You guys would work well together.

When losing an argument resort to insults.
Rule #1 in The Poor Loser’s Handbook.

Just slow down before you kill someone or yourself.

when I was 17. I'll drive how I drive. You probably shouldn't drive how you have been driving if you feel that unsafe. I bet drivers around you are feeling unsafe.

I'm not. I keep it to 65 on roads where the limit is 55, and I'm not the slowest driver. On 65-limit roads, I stay around 70, and I'm still not the slowest. I don't want to use that much gas. Also, I use cruise a lot. Unless traffic is really heavy, I usually don't have to brake much. What I do have to do is pay fucking attention and plan ahead.

Go up there and find out.

I have found that I tend to go 75 to 80 on the highway when conditions and traffic allow for it.

If I'm the slowest on the road at 70 mph, that's just as dangerous as going much faster and weaving in and out of lanes.

Maintain speed with the general traffic and make no dangerous maneuvers = not likely to be stopped. For the most part, the staties just want to see people driving and the highways safe for everyone. If you're seen doing something stupid, then it's guaranteed they will stop you.

I have sometimes been doing 75 or 80 and people fly buy me. They must be doing 100. I am less likely to go that fast because it uses a lot of fuel and is expensive now.

Another good argument for reducing speeds. They didn't push for 55 in the 1970's for nothing.

Some vehicles you really can't feel the speed you're going. It's kind of amazing (and due to the motor and build). I had a Ducati that didn't find it's comfort zone (aka felt the most smooth) until I got up to 85. But, it was red, the fastest color. lol

That's why the left is the passing lane. All caps doesn't support your point. You are supposed to be checking your side mirrors. I believe your representation of your driving record, but frankly you don't talk like a safe driver.

"There are too many people breaking the law by driving too fast, and we all know that those people are also incapable of looking in front of them to see if upcoming traffic is going the same speed, so OBVIOUSLY the solution is for me to also break the law by driving too fast, and how dare you imply that there might be anything unsafe about this scenario or that there is anything wrong with my own behavior?"

I encourage drivers try to stay on dedicated motorized traffic roads (limited access highways) wherever possible as a way to reduce their impact on our communities and minimize potential conflicts with vulnerable street users. In other words, if you are lucky enough to drive, please stay on the highways and don't look for cut throughs where we are busy trying to live.

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Sensors and brake control that prevent rear ending the car in front of you is becoming more common and will eventually be a federally mandated safety feature, assuming we're not overthrown by a fascist regime in 2028.

... that work to prevent or reduce severity of SOME rear-ending crashes... Nothing is or will be fool-proof.

Hope that text was worth it

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You really are.

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… looking for attention.

You were more entertaining as Magoo.

… looking for attention.

You were more entertaining as Magoo.

I didn’t need to go anywhere yesterday but a friend who happened to be biking through Dorchester around 5 PM reported that traffic was bumper to bumper all over the neighborhood in ways she’d never seen before.

Fascinating to think that what may have started as someone hitting the brakes a second too late and causing a little more than a fender bender on 93 can reverberate in tens of thousands of people missing appointments, flights, trains or way late for just about anything else.

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Got in my car to hear the traffic report "if you haven't left yet, don't." I took a rather scenic route home.

Didn't care.

Took me over an hour to go from the Ink Block to Savin Hill. 12 copy cars and a handful of unmarked cars screaming down Dorchester Street.

Gee, how did that happen?

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