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Developer sues zoning board over rejection of three-family cube on Columbia Road in South Boston
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Maybe if they use wood siding
Maybe if they use wood siding as opposed to what looks like stone in the picture people wouldn’t be so terrified of the deezine?
This must be your first rodeo....
My experience is that even with wood siding, these types will simply find a new reason to oppose the new structure. The main issue is never what's said... because it comes off as.... let's say, ridiculous?
reply to Errr
"These type"?
Please explain what that means.
Thank you.
Maybe if we had a Zoning Board
that wasn't so quick to reject proposals based on totally subjective criteria, like aesthetics for one, that have nothing to do with the established zoning regulations.
Might just be me...
Might just be me... but this totally resembles a modern take on a triple decker, and honestly still looks more similar to a traditional triple decker than not (3 stories high, front gable window next to porch). Why are roof decks a problem?
Roof decks?
Why are roof decks a problem?
I really don't know -- but I could imagine a roof deck party being louder for neighbors than a backyard BBQ. Again, I don't know if it's true, but a backyard is hemmed in by the homes and foliage in a way that perhaps roof parties aren't.
I personally think roof decks are overrated -- they ultimately aren't used that often, are hard to bring food and drink to in practice, etc. I'd rather they pop solar PV up there. On the other hand, urban areas don't have much outdoor space, so it makes sense to make use of what is available.
Roofdeck
U will never know the problem with roof decks until u live next to one. I’m not the party police but when u have 30 kids drinking & throwing cans of beer onto your property then it becomes a problem.they usually start on Thursday and goes until Sunday late nights with the music going nice and loud, drunks screaming. who wants to live next to that. They are usually rentals so u r dealing with the next group of new renters once the previous lease expires. It’s a bad cycle
So
They wouldn't throw it over the fence from the yard?
And how, exactly, is that a
And how, exactly, is that a zoning problem?
English can be challenging.
I believe the word you’re struggling with is “you”. Second person pronoun. “U” is Dutch.
Everybody hates roof decks now
It's been an issue in South Boston and the South End for awhile now. You know how those party animals get.
In fact, the same day the board rejected the proposal it's now getting sued over, it also rejected a deck proposed for a house on Dorchester Street.
Also see:
On a South End street full of roof decks, controversy explodes when one building owner wants to build a roof deck
I've seem you report on this
I've seem you report on this before, and appreciate it. That said, it seems so absurd that the ZBA can turn down permits based on the potential for an end user to be noisy. I'm not an expert but it seems to me, the taxpaying layperson, that really shouldn't be a consideration. Our city has a huge housing problem. Build the damn units.
This god forsaken city
is so incredibly NIMBY-driven and anti-fun that it drives me up a wall. South Boston feels so much more alive and active because of the roof decks.
Institute some curfew and adequate noise complaint responses. Instead of banning people from capitalizing on one of the best assets on a piece of property.
There should be countless roof-top restaurants and amenities around Boston like most major cities, but there's barely a handful today. Nope. No fun. Keep quiet. In bed by 10pm. Boring.
Do you own a home there?
It's so God forsaken but everybody wants to come here. It's a residential section of the city. You're free to party all night, as long as you keep it in your own home. Many renters are not currently doing that. They were raised by parents who never told them no or how to respect others. "Anti fun"? So you can't have fun without a roof deck? Sucks to be you I guess.
I agree. Years ago I was
I agree. Years ago I was thrilled to move into a building that had a roof deck. I walked up there exactly once, and didn’t stay. Nobody else ever used it either.
New Structure
Are you serious, why are roof decks a problem? I’m going to guess that either you don’t live here, just moved here and/or are young and trying to have a whole lot of fun! Here’s the thing with those of us who have lived here our entire lives, we’re sick of roof decks and all the drama that come with them!! We’ve got children, older parents who like to go to bed at a reasonable hour and don’t need to be tormented or bullied by the newcomers who’ve invaded our town!! The disrespect I’ve witnessed firsthand and the destruction of property by the people who love to drink on their “awesome deck”, is disgusting!!! We are sick of it and we’re putting a stop to it, be prepared because we’re coming for all of the trouble makers! If this isn’t you, you can just tell your friends!! Soo, if you’ve got friends who are thinking of moving here; tell them not to because change is a coming!!!
Is that a Skyline parked out
Is that a Skyline parked out front?
It's trying to be. Probably
It's trying to be. Probably stolen from GTA... Looks like one but proportions are off.
In this city, you cannot be
In this city, you cannot be better than rest. Be it in school or architecture.
Here’s an idea
make it less ugly so it appeals to the neighbors. Boston’s lack of architectural colleges in the past is coming back to haunt us.
Lack of architectural colleges?
I mean, there's one named for the city it's in. How many do we need?
I'm fairly certain that was a joke
Myself, I refer to MIT as a design school that has an engineering program affiliated with it.
LOL
This looks very similar, but modern, to all those triple-stacked trailers known as "triple deckers" that are all over this neighborhood already.
It really does often seem
It really does seem like the members of these zoning and planning related boards and commissions often do not recognize what legal authority they do and do not have. I have been in far too many meetings where it seems like they're just winging it and making decisions based on their own personal opinions and not in response to specific laws or regulations.
I love my building’s roof deck.
Not least because hardly anyone ever uses it, except my household. I grew some delicious Sungold tomatos a few years ago up there for grazing. Catnip for the cat. Great place to dry bed linens. The sunlight kills dust mites that electric dryers cannot.
Just more of the Quincy
Just more of the Quincy syndrome. NIMBY.
Dear Boston
Grow tf up already.
Dear Boston
You GTFU, MYOB D O P E!!