But if an architect says it's "hulking" obviously that's a technical term and who could argue with that?
Good thing 5 Downer Court isn't too big, since it has three units on a 1600-square-foot lot and this would be 9 units on an 8200-square-foot lot.
Some quick math: 1600/3 = 533 square feet per unit = the neighborhood character or whatever.
8200/9 = 911 square feet per unit = hulking.
Too bad they're next door to each other.
The proponent should come back with a plan showing 5 Downer Court copy-pasted 3 times onto 9 Downing Street which would fit and then say "this is the exact next door building with more green space does this still not fit the character of the neighborhood?"
The merits of this particular project on that dead end street aside, one of his projects down the road in Alston could be argued as "hulking" and out of context with the surrounding area context. While the Comm Ave large apartments are bigger, the rest of Greylock St is all houses that this project doesn't fit in with.
While I agree with you on the hulking comment, the Glenville Residences were built 9 to 10 years ago.
Also worth noting the wood façade features have drastically deteriorated over the years and look horrible now but hey, not like the architect specs out finishes.
Maintenance plays a lot into how things deteriorate. You can't blame the architect for a lack of maintenance.
The architect would likely (or should have) have explained why materials were chosen and the maintenance required. The owner has final say in material selection.
Which of the specific provisions of MGL Ch 40A, that would have allowed the board to grant a variance, do you think applies here?
(Note that I'm not asking you to take a position on whether or not building that particular building on that lot would be a good thing or a bad thing overall, only on what would have given the ZBA legal room to act.)
The crisis in housing is much bigger than 40A and is due to reasonable for the area projects like this being shot down on highly "I just feeeeeeelllll" criteria, if you can call that criteria.
Government agencies don’t get their power by divine right, they get their power from the legislation that enables their existence. The ZBA was never meant to be the arbiter of what gets built and what doesn’t; it has limited power to grant variances to the zoning laws under sharply limited circumstances.
What has us in this mess is that forever we have had zoning laws that basically forbid everything, and people grew to think that a reasonable way out of that situation was to let the ZBA exercise power it didn’t legally have, to grant variances it shouldn’t grant. The vaguely Soviet analogy is to have draconian laws on the books that the “nice, benevolent” officials rarely enforce… it just had the corrosive, corrupting effect of concentrating the authority in places it wasn’t meant to be.
The solution to the housing shortage is to change the actual zoning rules, not to circumvent those rules by encouraging the ZBA to be loose about handing out variances, especially to applicants who are popular with their neighbors, or who contribute to the right candidates, or who hire the right lawyer.
As someone who lives in the Meetinghouse Hill neighborhood, I can tell you we were relieved the ZBA did not approve this project. We were opposed to the number of units, not because the building was "hulking", but because of public safety concerns. Downer Ct is a small dead end street. And residents are already having to park on both sides of the street. If a house on that street catches on fire, it will be difficult as is for emergency vehicles to respond. The proposed number of units needed appropriate off-street parking built in...which wasn't happening.
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God forbid people have somewhere to live
But if an architect says it's "hulking" obviously that's a technical term and who could argue with that?
Good thing 5 Downer Court isn't too big, since it has three units on a 1600-square-foot lot and this would be 9 units on an 8200-square-foot lot.
Some quick math: 1600/3 = 533 square feet per unit = the neighborhood character or whatever.
8200/9 = 911 square feet per unit = hulking.
Too bad they're next door to each other.
The proponent should come back with a plan showing 5 Downer Court copy-pasted 3 times onto 9 Downing Street which would fit and then say "this is the exact next door building with more green space does this still not fit the character of the neighborhood?"
I mean all in the eye of the beholder, right?
But there certainly is a good amount of hulking, multi family projects in Mr. Robinson's portfolio.
https://www.rodearchitects.com/residential
The merits of this particular project on that dead end street aside, one of his projects down the road in Alston could be argued as "hulking" and out of context with the surrounding area context. While the Comm Ave large apartments are bigger, the rest of Greylock St is all houses that this project doesn't fit in with.
https://www.rodearchitects.com/PROJECTS/Glenville-Residences
Also worth noting the wood façade features have drastically deteriorated over the years and look horrible now but hey, not like the architect specs out finishes.
Although he only joined the ZBA in 2020 so maybe he had a change of heart after his projects went up.
Wait
While I agree with you on the hulking comment, the Glenville Residences were built 9 to 10 years ago.
Maintenance plays a lot into how things deteriorate. You can't blame the architect for a lack of maintenance.
Thats valid
Hopefully next time a project of Mr. Robinson's comes up before the ZBA that point gets brought up too.
Yes you can, if the architect
Yes you can, if the architect chose materials that require intensive maintenance that is unlikely to occur.
You do know
The architect would likely (or should have) have explained why materials were chosen and the maintenance required. The owner has final say in material selection.
If you wrote about the "hulking" comment ...
If I can ask a favor: Could you repost your comment? I deleted it by mistake, for which I apologize.
This is why we have a housing crisis
Awful. Absolutely awful decision.
Support your claim
Which of the specific provisions of MGL Ch 40A, that would have allowed the board to grant a variance, do you think applies here?
(Note that I'm not asking you to take a position on whether or not building that particular building on that lot would be a good thing or a bad thing overall, only on what would have given the ZBA legal room to act.)
What does 40A have to do with it?
The crisis in housing is much bigger than 40A and is due to reasonable for the area projects like this being shot down on highly "I just feeeeeeelllll" criteria, if you can call that criteria.
What 40A has to do with it
Government agencies don’t get their power by divine right, they get their power from the legislation that enables their existence. The ZBA was never meant to be the arbiter of what gets built and what doesn’t; it has limited power to grant variances to the zoning laws under sharply limited circumstances.
What has us in this mess is that forever we have had zoning laws that basically forbid everything, and people grew to think that a reasonable way out of that situation was to let the ZBA exercise power it didn’t legally have, to grant variances it shouldn’t grant. The vaguely Soviet analogy is to have draconian laws on the books that the “nice, benevolent” officials rarely enforce… it just had the corrosive, corrupting effect of concentrating the authority in places it wasn’t meant to be.
The solution to the housing shortage is to change the actual zoning rules, not to circumvent those rules by encouraging the ZBA to be loose about handing out variances, especially to applicants who are popular with their neighbors, or who contribute to the right candidates, or who hire the right lawyer.
4 levels
of pure ugliness. At one time the Zoning Board would tell you what style of windows you could use.
What a downer!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
As someone who lives in the
As someone who lives in the Meetinghouse Hill neighborhood, I can tell you we were relieved the ZBA did not approve this project. We were opposed to the number of units, not because the building was "hulking", but because of public safety concerns. Downer Ct is a small dead end street. And residents are already having to park on both sides of the street. If a house on that street catches on fire, it will be difficult as is for emergency vehicles to respond. The proposed number of units needed appropriate off-street parking built in...which wasn't happening.