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Two Boston fire captains sue to take civil-service test state canceled after judge ruled similar police test was biased
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Wait , so this is from a 2009
Wait , so this is from a 2009 case and instead of spending the last *checks notes* 13 YEARS prepping for this moment they decided to instantly cancel all tests without a plan on how to move forward? That's ridiculous , the fees should be given back , the next test should be free and they deserve damages.
Case is from 13 years ago,
Case is from 13 years ago, but the judge's decision was 3 weeks ago.
Yes but if they knew that
Yes but if they knew that this was a concern and was being fought for this long that maybe they should have looked at what to do if they lost a case. It feels like the people that cant make these decisions are the ones being punished.
"make the test give the exam"
This may be a typo here - do you mean "make the state give the exam?"
Yes, sorry
We're not yet at the point of having tests self-administer themselves. Fixed.
They should have still had the test....
And they simply don't have to "certify" it. That basically means the results on the old test continue until they either figure something out or the courts say that test is no longer good either.
My understanding the test is still a valid test, but it shouldn't be weighed as heavily as cities and towns are currently weighing them for promotional purpuses.
Judges don't take tests
They get appointed by contributing to the winner of the Governors race.
Since when?
Unless things have changed, judges at some point have to take the Bar Exam.
They don't.
They don't. Not at the state level and not at the federal level.
Here?
When's the last time a judge was appointed in MA who had not passed the bar exam?
This should make the promotion decisions pretty easy
Person wants a supervisory role in an organization in which one pledges to serve all members of the public fairly and which would require supervising/promoting/hiring/firing people in an equitable manner.
Person finds out that the organization is going to look into changing some things to address systemic racism.
Rather than be relieved at the much-needed changes and proud of the organization for fighting racism, person decides it's unacceptable and launches into a lawsuit. This is pretty clear proof that the person lacks some bona fide job qualifications.
The problem is....
The "organization" (Fire/Police) didn't set up a system that fights racism either. They stuck with the old system (civil service) until a judge ordered that old system to cancel the test.
You missed the part where it
You missed the part where it was court ordered (or at least compelled by the loss in court) and there was no plan in place at any level for this possibility despite it being in the courts for over a decade. You are giving the credit to the wrong people, choosing the side of the orgabizations that failed to maneuver while blaming the end user who literally was just existing within the system.
Imagine if you go to get a degree at a university, you study and invest in it but when you go to get your diploma a court halts the program because the university system is not racially diverse enough. There is no plan on how you should move forward and some person on the internet's tells you that your being upset shows a lack of character. This analogy is quite apt, the entire SAT system and other tests have been shown to possibly have racial bias. It's a fact that minorities are underrepresented in degrees . So why should t we just halt everything with no plan?
Let me see the test
Then I can make a judgment on this.