How exactly are people getting access to the PA system on trains? What the hell is going on? I have been a daily rider of the T for over 40 years and never has this type of thing happened before. Why (and how) is it suddenly al the rage?
the MBTA is. If they can’t get a handle on this ongoing issue, I don’t even want to think about how unprepared they are for any major security incidents. What a joke.
To a certain extent, you’re correct about people. What a time to be alive, right?
But at the same time, the MBTA is the 4th largest public transit system in America, with a long history of mismanagement and a less than stellar track record when it comes to safety. To say it’s not their fault people keep finding their way into cabs and onto the PA system…I’m gonna have to respectfully disagree.
It may feel that way every time we hear about some disturbing incidents but it's not necessarily through overall in Boston.
Source: latest Boston Police stats. The line at the bottom of the sheet comparing 2021-2022 and the 5 year average is most helpful. Sorry about the long link, I have yet to figure out how to create an hyperlink on this page.
They're fully locked in to some cheesy ESCAPE FROM THE BRONX dystopian nightmare and crime stats are mere Liberal Lies only meant to confuse and distract.
Real life isn't FOX or Newsmax and STRANGER DANGER isn't literally around every corner.
Pretty sure "Dumb Kids Being Dumb On The Subway" was invented when the trolley only went to Boylston from Park St and back.
Get off Twitter, turn of the TV, talk to a neighbor and communicate with other human beings. Because spending your time anger-tweeting at bots and retweeting pillow grifters is not a way to go through life.
Because despite whatever Hamhead News Guy says ITS NOT THAT BAD OUT THERE.
I’m guessing the doors aren’t unlocked so they either have a key or are prying open the door. If they are prying it open there’s got to be a fair amount of damage.
...it does seem concerning that they were able to get in there. I have no idea what's in those cabs, but I am sure there's a lot more mischief they could get up to than letting their treason flag fly over the intercom.
They could certainly damage the train controls but the system is designed such that they so couldn’t operate the train unless in the lead car. They could probably hit an emergency stop but you don’t need to be in the cab to do that.
It makes sense the intercom stays active in case the T wanted to have a separate conductor and operator like NYC.
The T will probably respond by taking a few years and spending millions to design some sort of lock out system for the intercom by which time kids will have found something else to screw with.
But aren’t the doors designed with an always closed latch where the skeleton key acts as the doorknob? I thought they couldn’t be left unlocked as doing so would have the door be flapping around. (Maybe that’s just green/red lines?)
The latch could be broken or the door not slammed shut.
I think if I found an open cab I’d just enjoy looking at the controls up close.
I've seen the door on the other end of the car - the one that leads to the next car - open on the Red Line quite a few times.
There was a period a few years ago that it was a pretty regular thing on the first car on 6 am out of Ashmont, for a few months. The door would fly open in between stations.
As that is an obvious safety issue that was happening repeatedly (and maybe still is?? I sit in another car now), I have no trouble believing a few cab doors being unlocked!
The crime statistics may not reflect it, but if you take the train in the city or walk around in places where yoof gather, you should notice a definite uptick in antisocial behavior. If you haven't, maybe you should keep doing what you are doing.
When I say to people that I have noticed that there seems to be a lot more strange, dangerous and/or antisocial behavior these days, they say "we just hear about it more now", what with social media, Uhub and al. But that's not it. I am a personal witness to this changing behavior on my daily T commute. And I'm not sure if the man I saw in Downtown Crossing on Saturday with a live possum on his shoulder (really!) even counts. Compared to a lot of what's going on, that almost seems downright average.
I just yell at them (when out of range) to be VERY social with themselves in an intimate way. I encourage such sociability in antisocial types. It helps when the self- intimacy keeps their mouth occupied.
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What goes on?
How exactly are people getting access to the PA system on trains? What the hell is going on? I have been a daily rider of the T for over 40 years and never has this type of thing happened before. Why (and how) is it suddenly al the rage?
What an absolute embarrassment
the MBTA is. If they can’t get a handle on this ongoing issue, I don’t even want to think about how unprepared they are for any major security incidents. What a joke.
It’s not the T’s fault
It’s the people. Lots of people have just lost it. Not sure they T or any other entity can put a stop to all the crazy things people do now days.
Yes and no
To a certain extent, you’re correct about people. What a time to be alive, right?
But at the same time, the MBTA is the 4th largest public transit system in America, with a long history of mismanagement and a less than stellar track record when it comes to safety. To say it’s not their fault people keep finding their way into cabs and onto the PA system…I’m gonna have to respectfully disagree.
Are you gonna be OK?
Obviously nobody is condoning this but they're just kids being idiots.
Maybe don't leave the house anymore if you're that worried?
It's symptomatic of a larger breakdown of law and order, I think
I keep reading about gangs of teenagers beating people up and rises in violent crime in general. I don't know why it should be happening.
It may feel that way every
It may feel that way every time we hear about some disturbing incidents but it's not necessarily through overall in Boston.
Source: latest Boston Police stats. The line at the bottom of the sheet comparing 2021-2022 and the 5 year average is most helpful. Sorry about the long link, I have yet to figure out how to create an hyperlink on this page.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5086f19ce4b0ad16ff15598d/t/628d69...
Just ignore them.
They're fully locked in to some cheesy ESCAPE FROM THE BRONX dystopian nightmare and crime stats are mere Liberal Lies only meant to confuse and distract.
Where do you people come from?
Real life isn't FOX or Newsmax and STRANGER DANGER isn't literally around every corner.
Pretty sure "Dumb Kids Being Dumb On The Subway" was invented when the trolley only went to Boylston from Park St and back.
Get off Twitter, turn of the TV, talk to a neighbor and communicate with other human beings. Because spending your time anger-tweeting at bots and retweeting pillow grifters is not a way to go through life.
Because despite whatever Hamhead News Guy says ITS NOT THAT BAD OUT THERE.
A simple solution
Take away the motorcycles and fancy air conditioned police cars and put their police on the trains were they belong
Adam, how do you know the
Adam, how do you know the chowderhead was white?
How does one take over the intercom?
Finding an unlocked cab door?
(Asking for a friend. Who isn't racist. And doesn't like porn.)
Adam wont post it if I say how.
But its not that hard to do.
Unfortunately sometimes the only way ...
to get a security flaw fixed is to make it public :-(
That’s my question too
I’m guessing the doors aren’t unlocked so they either have a key or are prying open the door. If they are prying it open there’s got to be a fair amount of damage.
Either way
...it does seem concerning that they were able to get in there. I have no idea what's in those cabs, but I am sure there's a lot more mischief they could get up to than letting their treason flag fly over the intercom.
Not according to the T
They could certainly damage the train controls but the system is designed such that they so couldn’t operate the train unless in the lead car. They could probably hit an emergency stop but you don’t need to be in the cab to do that.
It makes sense the intercom stays active in case the T wanted to have a separate conductor and operator like NYC.
The T will probably respond by taking a few years and spending millions to design some sort of lock out system for the intercom by which time kids will have found something else to screw with.
I have found an unlocked door before
so it's not out of the question. But I'm not in the habit of trying all the doors, so I'm not sure how common it is.
Not questioning you
But aren’t the doors designed with an always closed latch where the skeleton key acts as the doorknob? I thought they couldn’t be left unlocked as doing so would have the door be flapping around. (Maybe that’s just green/red lines?)
The latch could be broken or the door not slammed shut.
I think if I found an open cab I’d just enjoy looking at the controls up close.
No idea
I don't know much about trains. That sounds like the way it should be designed, though, and a broken latch sounds about right for the MBTA.
door on the other end
I've seen the door on the other end of the car - the one that leads to the next car - open on the Red Line quite a few times.
There was a period a few years ago that it was a pretty regular thing on the first car on 6 am out of Ashmont, for a few months. The door would fly open in between stations.
As that is an obvious safety issue that was happening repeatedly (and maybe still is?? I sit in another car now), I have no trouble believing a few cab doors being unlocked!
You do know
Young men use that word in a non racist way. Nothing indicates it was used in a derogatory manner.
I hear the word daily, and never in a racist way.
Sounds like kids being idiots.
scary question:
are the intercom controls in the same lead car where the actually train controls (accelerator/brake/track switching/...) are located ?
According to the T, no
This came up with the Red Line incident and the T's answer was that only the train controls in the first car are enabled, unlike the intercom.
Then again, Red Line trains weren't supposed to move if a door wasn't fully closed, so ...
The statistics may not
The crime statistics may not reflect it, but if you take the train in the city or walk around in places where yoof gather, you should notice a definite uptick in antisocial behavior. If you haven't, maybe you should keep doing what you are doing.
That's what I have been saying
When I say to people that I have noticed that there seems to be a lot more strange, dangerous and/or antisocial behavior these days, they say "we just hear about it more now", what with social media, Uhub and al. But that's not it. I am a personal witness to this changing behavior on my daily T commute. And I'm not sure if the man I saw in Downtown Crossing on Saturday with a live possum on his shoulder (really!) even counts. Compared to a lot of what's going on, that almost seems downright average.
Antisocial
I just yell at them (when out of range) to be VERY social with themselves in an intimate way. I encourage such sociability in antisocial types. It helps when the self- intimacy keeps their mouth occupied.